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Rim refinishing.

Post by Mr T » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:49 pm

I'm working on redoing my rims on the BLT. Anyone ever done this?
Is it a good idea to sand the down with light sand paper, to get the coating of. the recoat them? Any suggestions?

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Post by 88T-FL » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:41 pm

Hello,
There is a procedure to refinish the BLT wheels in the factory maintenance manual. It is posted here:
viewtopic.php?t=2484&highlight=clear+coat
Thanks - Peter
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Post by Tbird » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:36 pm

Mr T! You are in the right place! I got mine done a few years ago. I also had 2 others get their rims done there and they were VERY happy. Great finish and lasts.
The place is called Carcone's and they are 400/401 area in Aurora, Ontario: http://www.carconeswheelrefinishing.com/107/news.php. $125 per rim. I had my set of 4 done for $400 but the price went up last year.
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1987 BLT :stt: rust free from Florida and restored with 77 kms / 48k miles.
1988 BLT :stt: RIP. Spare parts car for the 87 BLT. Had 490k kms / 304k miles.

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Post by Mr T » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:09 am

Since I have time, and not money, I think I am going to try and do the polish myself. I found this method on a Camaro site, I looks good.
The only difference is that I won't paint the insides black.

http://www.thirdgen.org/sergiowheels

Let me know what you all think.

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Post by GSXMEN » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:33 am

It takes a while, but I've glassbeaded the clear coat off of rims before. It would be a lot easier to use the chemical stripper first.
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Post by Tbird » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:58 am

GSXMEN wrote:It takes a while, but I've glassbeaded the clear coat off of rims before. It would be a lot easier to use the chemical stripper first.
I started sandblasting Toyota rims before winter hit. I did 3 of the 4 rims at about 5 hours each. VERY time consuming. In the spring I will finish the last one then paint/clearcoat with air paint gun.

Only concern I have is to clearcoat the inside spokes. Any recommendations as to how to do it without runs. I can forsee an issue with runs as you want to have an even coat but will be hard in the depression like that.
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1987 BLT :stt: rust free from Florida and restored with 77 kms / 48k miles.
1988 BLT :stt: RIP. Spare parts car for the 87 BLT. Had 490k kms / 304k miles.

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Post by Tbird » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:04 am

I would recommend removing the tires from the rim. For the amount it would cost to remove them and then get them rebalanced later I think it is still worth the money. The hassles of working around the tires will help with your sanity. Also painting with tape on the tires can make the paint uneven and also peal some of your hard work when you take the tape off.
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1987 BLT :stt: rust free from Florida and restored with 77 kms / 48k miles.
1988 BLT :stt: RIP. Spare parts car for the 87 BLT. Had 490k kms / 304k miles.

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Post by Mr T » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:34 am

Not sure, but would it would help you to just do thin coats of clear coat to avoid runs?

I think removing the tires may be a good idea.

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Post by Tbird » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:47 am

I don't know if thin coats will work. My first experiences with clear coat was this summer. If the coat was not thick it would tend create a rough finish.
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1987 BLT :stt: rust free from Florida and restored with 77 kms / 48k miles.
1988 BLT :stt: RIP. Spare parts car for the 87 BLT. Had 490k kms / 304k miles.

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Post by 88T-FL » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:03 pm

Tbird wrote:I don't know if thin coats will work. My first experiences with clear coat was this summer. If the coat was not thick it would tend create a rough finish.
Hello,
I think that with a reasonable amount of care, stripping and clear coating the wheel is something anyone could do. There are several ways to go about it - for more just Google it, pick the one you like and go. Only caution I can think of is if you use cheap or the wrong stuff the job may not come out too well or worse yet, won't last and you will get to do it again in the future. With that, I am pretty sure I will use the method and materials from the GM manual. I have a bunch of wheels to do and just have to start. I was hoping someone would give it a try and learn from them. There may be newer materials since this was written but the GM procedure is pretty specific on applying the clear:

Recoating Procedure
1. Clean surface of contaminants.
2. Soak wheel with Amchem #33 or equivalent from 1 to 3 minutes, then rinse with water and blow dry.
3. Soak wheel with Amchem #1001 or equivalent from 1 to 3 minutes, then rinse with water and blow dry.
4. Finish with Ditzler Delclear Acrylic Urethane and Ditzler Ultra-Urathane Additive or equivalent using three coats.
1st Coat – Light mist coat, let flash.
2nd Coat – Light mist coat, let flash.
3rd Coat – Heavy wet coat.

It seems to me that if you end up with a run when doing the heavy coat it is only clearcoat - just sand it and either buff or re-coat.

The full GM refinishing procedure is here: viewtopic.php?t=2484&highlight=clear+coat

Thanks - Peter
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Post by Tbird » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:59 pm

Great post. Thanks Peter!
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1987 BLT :stt: rust free from Florida and restored with 77 kms / 48k miles.
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Post by GSXMEN » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:24 pm

Urethane clear is rugged stuff, I'd highly recommend(2nd) that as well.

Gary - you might try a touch up gun/airbrush, like hobbyists use. That might work well for good coverage without getting to heavy on the coats. Just use that for the hard to reach areas, then do final coats with the big gun.
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Post by Tbird » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:53 pm

Thanks Scott
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1987 BLT :mtt: with no rust, clean and 517k kms / 321k miles.
1987 BLT :stt: rust free from Florida and restored with 77 kms / 48k miles.
1988 BLT :stt: RIP. Spare parts car for the 87 BLT. Had 490k kms / 304k miles.

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Post by Mr T » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:11 am

Well I'm hopefully going to be doing my rims this week.
I bought some paint stripper, and tested it on a little part of my rim.
It took the clearcoat off in no time at all, very easy.
If the process goes well I will write a full report.

stay tuned....

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Post by Mr T » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:15 am

Well I took the clear coat off the two rear rims. They look very shiney. However the corrosion looks a little worse now that the clear coat is off.
By worse, I mean The little specks that you need to look closely at, are easier to see. Not a big deal.
I'm hoping that once the clear coat is back on it will look perfect. :D

I used some metal polish to clean the aluminum, and I painted the inside of one of the spokes with 'aluminum color' paint. It turned out lighter than I planned, but it looks pretty cool.

Here are some pictures of the one painted hole.
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Let me know what you think.
I'll write more later

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