Timing Cover Removal

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Timing Cover Removal

Post by ore0690 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:05 am

Hey guys. I'm getting ready to change my timing chain and related components (for '86 VIN 3). In my chilton's manual, it says that when the timing cover is removed, open the oil pump housing and pack the housing fully with petroleum jelly, "otherwise the oil pump may not pump oil as soon as the engine is started and engine damage may occur." What do you guys think of this procedure? I am looking to replace the timing cover with a brand new one, so I guess new oil pump gears will be bought as well. Also, what are your guys' methods for holding the crankshaft still when trying to remove the crankshaft pulley bolt?

I really appreciate your help. You guys are great.

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Post by T » Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:03 pm

Yes definately pack the oil pump with petroleum jelly. You cannot prime the pump on this engine.

I held the engine from turning with a prybar in the flywheel teeth.
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Post by ore0690 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:06 pm

Thanks T. One more thing... From where would it be easiest to access the flywheel?

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Post by T » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:26 am

There is a small cover between the engine and transmission. I set it up so the jack was close to this spot and the pry bar actually was braced against the jack. You'll also need a large cheater bar or a good impact wrench. The torque spec is around 200 lb-ft.

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Post by ore0690 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:19 am

Thanks T.

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Post by brads88t » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:09 am

Vice Grips work just as well on the fly wheel, just clamp them really tight. :mtt: :D

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Post by Rigel » Sun May 01, 2005 2:36 am

I used a KA-BAR Local neighbor who is a marine came over to help with the change and had a **** fit of laughs over my choice of flywheel lock.

Good luck itis a bit of a bitch to do. make sure she is on jack stands and all.

it is also a good time to clean the screen on the oil uptake sence you will have the pan off and replaceing the motor mounts if they are weak too.




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Post by ore0690 » Sun May 01, 2005 7:13 am

Would anybody suggest replacing the oil filter screen, pipe, and pipe gasket with new ones?

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Post by T » Sun May 01, 2005 1:30 pm

Unless you have really high mileage I wouldn't replace the screen. Definately clean it out along with the oil pan. I had about 1 cup of nylon sprocket in my oil pan. :oops:
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Post by Rigel » Sun May 01, 2005 3:07 pm

you get a pick up gasket with the oil pan gasket kit so I would replace the gasket on the uptake take realy no time to do it. mine was all clogged up with crap.


PS I love the plastic oil pan holders that you get with the gasket man is that a time/arm saver.


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Post by ore0690 » Sun May 01, 2005 9:05 pm

T wrote:I had about 1 cup of nylon sprocket in my oil pan. :oops:
:o Wow. Unbelievable.

Thanks Rigel and T for the good info. :cheers:
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Post by ore0690 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:19 pm

Okay so I'm almost done with the timing chain project... At first start up I am assuming that oil pressure will take a few moments to build up. My question is, would it be best to crank the engine without starting it until oil pressure builds up? (This would be accomplished by cranking it with the ignition module disconnected). Should I fill the new oil filter with oil to help the process? What were your procedures for initial start up?

Thanks guys. I will greatly appreciate your help.
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Post by Whitelion-89-T » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:57 pm

T wrote:Yes definately pack the oil pump with petroleum jelly. You cannot prime the pump on this engine.

I held the engine from turning with a prybar in the flywheel teeth.
Do I need to do the same on my 89-3800 C motor.?

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Post by T » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:16 pm

Whitelion-89-T wrote:
T wrote:Yes definately pack the oil pump with petroleum jelly. You cannot prime the pump on this engine.

I held the engine from turning with a prybar in the flywheel teeth.
Do I need to do the same on my 89-3800 C motor.?

Thanks 8-)
Only if you take the oil pump apart or oil filter adapter. I didn't when I did my 88 recently.
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L67 swap, CAI, STB, 180deg stat, Walbro 307 fuel pump, tranny cooler, Michelin XGT H4s, ZZP 3.4 MPS, AC 41-601 plugs.
PB: 14.447@95.08 (2.299 60ft.)

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