GS T-Type...

Frequently asked questions about the Lesabre T-type.

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Post by BillyBoy » Thu May 29, 2003 3:14 am

Here is the trunk sticker from a real 1989 T-Type LeSabre:

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Post by Truth_N_Liez » Thu May 29, 2003 4:29 am

i always wondered about those codes...what do they tell you?

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Post by Buick City Mike » Thu May 29, 2003 4:56 am

OK, here's my two cents worth. The car is a Buick. It is not A LeSabre GS T-Type. We never built one. Period. I know, I worked there. You have a nice ride and I hope you enjoy it. Mike
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Post by GST-Type » Thu May 29, 2003 5:11 am

1: yes it does have two spoilers, the regular t type on is on there as well as the humongous funky one lol.
2: Ive been in contact with two people so far. One is the president of the buick club of america and he said that it is possible that this special car is built, and Jeri Elliott from Buicks customer assistance who said that this was a specially built car. Whenever I get around to it Ill probably post those codes, but till then im just not gonna worry about it cuz Its seems to be raising a hell of a contraversy so o well, its nice and we'll just leave it at that. also new pics are up at http://members.cardomain.com/gstlesabre
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Post by Pugulis » Thu May 29, 2003 6:59 am

GST-Type, I would like to say good find. And I agree with you that the car is real. You contacted BUICK themselves and they said it was built, so it was. To all the neysayers out there; You need to remember that companies do stuff like this all the time. I've tried to explaine this before. They'll come out with a special edition for sale/display. They will usually go to their top sellers to put in the front of the showroom. My local auto parts guy had an 89 Grand am (not Grand Prix) that came with a 3.8. It was a limeted run car (only 50) the reason he got it was at the time he worked for GM. These cars are set up to see weather or not people would buy the car before acctually producing it. Sometimes cars like this a set up for regional sales. GST-type, you are lucky that BUICK new the car was built. Alot of times records of these cars get lost or forgotten. Also, If you were looking to get New rims and wanted to go with origanal ones, the rims from a Reatta are the same as ours (minus the center cap). Well anyway, be proud of the car you have! It's a rare car. Don't let the neysayers get you down.
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Post by Lo Type » Fri May 30, 2003 12:06 am

Yes it is, no its not, yes it is, ...... LOL, seriously, we need the codes and vin and you should really look at spending the $ for the build sheet. That way you can confirm everything, plus theyre cool to have anyway.
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Post by T » Fri May 30, 2003 1:00 am

Sorry GM doesn't go through all the work of designing an ECM and other parts for a run of 50 or 100 cars. They would lose thousands on each car. In 89 the Grand Am wasn't even available with a V6. I find it hard to believe they would go through all the trouble of getting the 3.8 to work. Plus if they build a car, they Must be able to service it and get parts. Call up your dealer and see if they can get you an engine mount for 3.8 Grand Am or a camshaft for a GS T-type. I bet you they won't be able to.

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Post by 86 2dr.ltd steve » Fri May 30, 2003 2:29 am

This is very easy, first and mainly the GS emblem is from a period 20 years earlier not the 80's. Second its not just a double model its a triple model and that would make it very rare because thats never been done either. The figures you threw up were the figures for the 86 GN 112- 117. Your calling someone thats most likely got a starter job at Buick thats only been in cars for 5 years if hes into them at all. It might just be a job and is also misconscrewing info because of the 86 GN. Now we all know about the LeSabre GN at 112-117 and the 86 Century GranSport at what ? somewhere around 100, the rare 85 2dr. Electra T-type, rare Reatta convertables, rare GNX why would no one know about this ultimate LeSabre t-type grand sport. 2 per state, yea right , the way the 86 GN was done " The cars will be mainly distrubited in the Jacksonville and Atlanta Zones". The only thing different about that car is the late 60's GS emblems if it was the ultimate H body wheres the other owners ? people that buy rare performance cars keep them and the info on them and are around to tell us about such cars but not in this case. I have one GM option code list that shows a 86 Oldsmobile Holiday sport coupe but it apparently never came to be although I still hold out to come by one someday. I say it never came to be because the next years code release book doesnt show the option but did still show the 86 LeSabre GN and the 86 Century GS as well as all the others we know of. There is nothing anywhere about a T-Type GS. I still say NA. Why did the guy sell his rare t-type GS and keep his t-types ?

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Post by GST-Type » Fri May 30, 2003 2:47 am

I got this one cuz the others are his baby's, this one was for his son and 1:he wanted the car away from his son who was ruinin the thing basically from wut ive seen that he did to it and 2: he wants to buy a new house for his son as well. these were the main reasons given for selling... The person i contacted is buicks customer assistance manager, but Maybe he is wrong, either way I've been told i shouldnt give out the codes but if you give me a list of how to read these I can possibly show u. I calld my dad up who is a mechanic and he told me not to give out codes to my particular car but to obtain these code sheets or whatever they are called so that I might be able to match them up. email them to me and I'll see what I can do.
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Post by GST-Type » Fri May 30, 2003 2:48 am

Also since I've never needed to obtain one, what exactly is the build sheet? Probably a question I already know the answer to but nothings clicking right now
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Post by 86 2dr.ltd steve » Fri May 30, 2003 3:09 am

A build sheet has the listing of what was put on the car much like the dealers window sticker but I've seen very few.

This is getting crazy because why would you father think the options sticker could have any adverse effect on your car by puttin them up , were not playing cards here. They just tell what equipment came on the car and frankly its going to read like most of the guys T-types here do, like the one that was shown above. Unless it was originally a Custom or Limited but if you have the t-type rear spoiler I'd say its going to wind up being a t-type with late 60's GS badges added. Those codes tell the suspension, sterio, interior packages and so on hardly like showing your hand.

I dont even think your VIN could be jeprodized but that should only show that it was a Custom anyhow

I didnt think build sheets were that expensive. That would be the most important one. I think they show the code and the plain english of what the code or package consited of.

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Post by Rigel » Fri May 30, 2003 3:54 am

Where in Kansas are you.....?

I live in Kansas City

I have a :mtt:

I would like to look that car over.

And please GOD remove that wing

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Post by Nathaniel Gjr. » Fri May 30, 2003 8:07 am

well man welcome to the board, second i love the car. third, my personal opinion only , i think the wing kills the look of the car because it is made for a mazda mx-3. i think a nice low rising wider spoiler would look great and compliment the body kit. this is just my opinion only.

do not be afraid to post your vin, do like i did and leave a couple numbers off at the end. both steve and T have a point. but pugulis is naming another car with similar treatment. casuing me to think. i think the best thing to do is decode that vin, and also try to find out the history of the car. do not worry it's not fighting, just good old fashioned thinking.

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Post by custom88 » Fri May 30, 2003 1:25 pm

I am going to have to agree with the other guys here and say that this is a custom job to a T-type. Also, there is no reason hy you can't post the options from the build sheet. They are just codes that tell you what options your car came equipped with from the factory. No harm can come from this. It just helps us to prove whether or not this car is a real, or a fake..
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Post by GST-Type » Fri May 30, 2003 3:57 pm

Im in a place called Atchison.. its about 1 1/2 hours or less depending on where you are in kc. im near st joe and rushville/weston. also i finally found a friend of mine whos been in florida who is gonna try to deal with this vin number issue once he gets back here in a few days. Otherwise i dont really feel safe placing it online. otherwise thanks for any comments, and yes I know the wing doesnt fit, it was added by the fool of a boy who was driving it before me and I dont want to remove it yet because it will leave holes and probably different colored paint spots (because or fading of the uncovered paint on the rest of the trunk).... once i have the money to redo the paint and finish up the body work Ill remove it and do something different. Right now i just got it tagged and had a magnaflow exhaust done and today its gettin a gas line replaced cuz it was leakin a wee bit, i also had the brakes and sway bar bushings replaced yesterday for better stopping and better handling. Ill have the car back and in drivin order here in a couple hours when the gas issue is dealt with.
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