3800 S1 TURBOCHARGE / INTERCOOLER /6 SPEED....BLT... w/Pic

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3800 S1 TURBOCHARGE / INTERCOOLER /6 SPEED....BLT... w/Pic

Postby steveX on Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:01 pm

yep. the project is in process. i install the garret td06 turbocharger into my Dallas T. i will up da


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Postby 87 PA-Tc on Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:01 pm

Looks like a clean T to operate on. Best of luck to you. Take pictures of the process and videos with sound after!!!!
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Postby 88T-FL on Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:15 pm

Hello Stevex,
Where is that "3800 Turbo" plastic intake cover from?
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Postby Alibi on Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:48 pm

I think thats compliments of Sharpie Marker, inc.
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Postby T on Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:06 pm

Stock engine too, looks interesting.
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Postby steveX on Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:39 pm

T you said it. this motor is stock with 154,000 mile, so is the transmission.

I will push the stock powertrain/driveline till something GIVES :cry: . I plan on building another 3800 long block with 1992-96 buick park ave supercharge PISTON with total seal gapless top ring, remove balance shaft, port and polish cylinder heads with stainless steel valve, hi-per valve spring.

I will replace the air cleaner box with a WATER-TO-AIR intercooler. I have plenty of room in this area for the turbo air cleaner and the heat-exchanger (intercooler). I`m using a bosch ele water pump found on 92 GMC sycloon/typhoon . I still have to put together the radiator for the intercooler system up front (30 inches wide)...later on that.

I do plan on moving the mass air flow sensor UP-STREAM on the turbo INLET. I will have to duplicate the GM sensor air path, i feel this will be important since the turbo will multiply the air flow speed. I notice the GM sensor have a special passage-way which slows down the air-flow at hi-rpm, for accurate reading/recording. The air temp sensor will be install into the throttle body intercooler pipe. o2 sensor will be mounted 6-8 inches in the 12 o`clock position on the turbo down pipe. i will upgrade to the Gn 4 wire o2. fuel pump upgrade to wilbro GT340 intank fuel pump. I will use my current MAFT+ for changing fuel and timming. i had great success with this device on my supercharge BLT. I don`t know what i will do with the vacume line going to the transmission modulator? I will have to see what happen during test driving. I am happy the car have ABS brake.
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Postby Brian Mc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:36 am

Steve is that splice in the crossover going to generate enough turbo speed? it seems like it should have a more smooth junction into the turbine housing, like a y pipe. That setup seems like a turbulent area where the exhaust from the 2 banks of the engine would slam together at that point, cancelling out their velocity into the turbine.

Like the intercooled GN system has the huge pipes with smooth contours all aiming at the turbine housing.

Yep I'm waiting the new spoiler with open arms too.
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Postby Donny Lowrida on Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:44 am

Thank God for Sharpie Markers! ("3800 Turbo") Looks cool though.

A turbo 3800...awesome!!! ;)

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Postby Whitelion-89-T on Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:29 am

Hey Steve,
That is SO COOL that you are doing up another BLT. Good luck with your T, you said she would be even Better then your red BLT.
Keep up the good work Man. 8-)

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Postby steveX on Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:11 pm

Brian Mc wrote:Steve is that splice in the crossover going to generate enough turbo speed? it seems like it should have a more smooth junction into the turbine housing, like a y pipe. That setup seems like a turbulent area where the exhaust from the 2 banks of the engine would slam together at that point, cancelling out their velocity into the turbine.

Like the intercooled GN system has the huge pipes with smooth contours all aiming at the turbine housing.

Yep I'm waiting the new spoiler with open arms too.


the crossover pipe is section in two at the turbo flange (internally). i know what you are talking about. you will not notice this by look at the pipe externally. onec the turbo is remove, the outlet is section so the left bank cylinder does not interfear with the right cylinder, the left and right bank flow all the way into the turbo turbine with No turbulance. thank you for the tip ;) .
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Postby Brian Mc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:43 pm

steveX wrote:
Brian Mc wrote:Steve is that splice in the crossover going to generate enough turbo speed? it seems like it should have a more smooth junction into the turbine housing, like a y pipe. That setup seems like a turbulent area where the exhaust from the 2 banks of the engine would slam together at that point, cancelling out their velocity into the turbine.

Like the intercooled GN system has the huge pipes with smooth contours all aiming at the turbine housing.

Yep I'm waiting the new spoiler with open arms too.


the crossover pipe is section in two at the turbo flange (internally). i know what you are talking about. you will not notice this by look at the pipe externally. onec the turbo is remove, the outlet is section so the left bank cylinder does not interfear with the right cylinder, the left and right bank flow all the way into the turbo turbine with No turbulance. thank you for the tip ;) .


Ok that makes sense. Not sure how you managed to do that internal work on the pipe, but nice work!
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Postby Dirtracr95 on Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:06 pm

where is 2seater his ln3 is already turbo
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Postby GSXMEN on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:14 am

Steve - what did you do on the back manifold to redirect the flow up front?
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Postby steveX on Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:41 am

Hmmmm..pictures,pictures I will remember to post pic next time I up-date, I also have to find them on the web (yahoo junk tons of my picture and close e-mail). I use the stock manifold, by removing outlet and close it off, I also had to redirect #6 and #4 cylinder exhaust runner , since the turbo/outlet is at the crossover pipe ;-). Maybe I will post pic when I get home(PC). Not all ghetto work comes from backyard garage. I did the kit before using the 89 TGP (turbo grand prix). I find the crossover being too restricted , so now I have streamline the exhaust so air flow dynamic is alway at the top of the list. I am also planning a water to air heat ex-changer where the air cleaner box is located, NO FMIC here, easier to tune Plus less turbo-lag, system more compact,less piping. Bending IC pipe can be a pain, when messed-up. Pic yea
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Postby viper_cole on Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:10 am

i know that with the L36 motors from the Grand Prix GT's, turbo's launch some cars into the 400WHP, what are you expecting out of this setup?
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